Famicom Dojo Podcast: Xbox One

by Sean "TheOrange" Corse, filed in Famicom Dojo Podcast, Podcasts on May.31, 2013

Famicom Dojo Podcast 75: Xbox One

Last week, Microsoft unveiled their next-generation gaming console, controller, and name. While the “XBONE” jokes are already flying, more is being made of what Microsoft didn’t say at this event than what they did say. (Or did. Or showed.) Which is kind of too bad, because even amongst the crazier ideas (e.g. cloud computing), there were some pretty cool concepts. Oh, and that whole pesky “used games” and “always online” messaging fiasco. Sean welcomes guests Zac Shipley (No Topic Required) and Justin Severson (Powet.TV) to talk about these missteps, try to focus at least a little bit on the positive aspects of the presentation, and speculate about Microsoft’s endgame in the console space, and if the Xbox One will really be “the one”, final console that Microsoft will ever make.

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Tags: Call Of Duty, EA, Microsoft, Windows Azure, Xbox One, Xbox Reveal, Zac Shipley

Progearspec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

http://www.famicomdojo.tv/ Sean “TheOrange” Corse

Pretty much! Almost named the episode after this, but I didn’t want to turn people off… hahaha

Progearspec

I just had to link it since i find it funny.There press release,pretty much showed me what there selling and they could have done better.Any ways “after finding out what it’s restrictions will be” and exclusive it will have i am not sold on the console.

DJ

I don’t think the argument about not being able to see a band in concert the same way you saw it years ago equates to the issue of not being able to play games the same way years ago. Band members die or leave the group and those are the reasons why you can’t experience it the same way, video games and other digital media aren’t affected the same way.

Anyways after hearing the recent announcement that the PS4 won’t require an internet connection and that it’s up to the developers to implement DRM, I think it’s going to make Microsoft either rethink their strategies or force them to drop out of the race. But PS4 will still have DRM right? Maybe at first but it won’t last. Even though some companies may choose to use DRM, many won’t (to promote their game sales) and that causes the PS4 to be more of a competitive open market and forces other companies not to use it. Xbox One has a more, shall we say ‘communistic grip’, where there’s no competition and therefore the market never gets better for the consumer. Believe it or not, a lot of devs are also against the Xbox One and its DRM and I can’t blame them! If I slaved years into making a game I’d want as many people to enjoy it as possible, DRM doesn’t allow this.

What do you guys think? Any oversights? Also do you think it’s alright for reviewers to lower the score of a game due to DRM? It literally decreases the games value.

http://zacshipley.com/ Zac Shipley

I think you’re confusing resale value with overall value. And a developer could give a flying fuck about how well the game does on the secondary market.

A critic on the other hand should be reviewing the experience presented and the artistic merits of the game. I think the ability to flip a game for another one a week after release would be an element a critic would bring up in the review of a BAD game rather than a GOOD one. (IE, probably not an issue on Bioshock Infinite, but a factor in Colonial Marines to get rid of it as soon as possible)

I still think people are making way, way, way too much of this.

I like to preserve games, but the fact of the matter is that so many online experiences are unable to be duplicated. They’re here and then they’re gone. It is as futile as trying to preserve a taste or smell. You’ll have to live with the memory.

DJ

Yes value for the most part does represent the experience and enjoyment of the game but some people do find it valuable to be able to loan, trade, and sell to friends to play other games when money is tight. In the near future it could be a deciding factor between Awesome Game A and Awesome Game B for me. I do agree with what you said about critics, even if a really good game has DRM it shouldn’t prevent you from playing it. But it may happen, I mean critics still complain about games not having multiplayer so if they can find things to nitpick they will.

As for developers I was mostly was talking about how their games couldn’t be enjoyed anymore once Xbox Live is shut down. Some devs do care more about creating a truly enjoyable experience that many can play instead of cold hard cash but sadly most of them are Indy developers (like on Xbox Live) nowadays. Atlus and Xseed are also good examples, they bring niche games that fans want despite the fact they could potentially lose them money. But there are developers that hate DRM, I remember reading an article written by a producer of Super Meat Boy to EA about SimCity. Don’t quote me on this but I thought I’d heard that developers wouldn’t be making direct money off used game fees anyways, the publishers would get it.

I don’t think we’re making too big a deal of this. I believe video games are art, and with all aspects of art- one of the most important things to do is preserve it for the future generations. I loved listening to my dad’s old vinyls and watching old movies growing up. And just like old movies and music, I’ve pretty much raised my little brother on Super Metroid and The Legend of Zelda and I think newer gamers should have that chance too with next gen. Sure online experiences can’t easily be preserved but we should try and keep what we can. As gamers it’s our responsibility to preserve this art form. Try not to think of it as you reliving the experience but those further down the road.

Thanks for the comment, it’s always great to hear someone else’s perspective!

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